"Claim: POWs were beaten for refusing to cooperate or meet with Fonda during her visit. I mean, you know, of all manner of slings and arrows were thrown my way. As I tell my students when we discuss the proper use of testimony, we probably ought not to listen to Jane Fonda on things dealing with foreign affairs but if our goal is to rid our aging bodies from the ravages of cellulite then Fonda can be considered an authority! She was a symbol of a divided nation. Its something very like the worst sort of lovers betrayal, the deep wound that time itself often is powerless to heal. But Jane Fonda: Cancel my subscription!, In replying, I discovered that the Good Book notwithstanding, a soft answer turneth away wrath no more than zo percent of the time. re: Jane Fonda visiting BR this weekend Posted on 3/3/23 at 9:43 am to Chipand2Putts. Liberals in America's streets "protested" our victories and exulted in our defeats - thus, in patriots' eyes, giving the war a raison d'etre. Us veterans will never forget or forgive her posing on a North Viet anti-aircraft gun, regardless whatever else she may or may not have done. "STRATAGEMS of DEFEAT AND NO-WIN WARS CHRIS WALLACE: Your most famous protest was 50 years ago when you went to North Vietnam at the height of the war there. And, you know, I think they thought, Oh, shes this white privilege rich, famous daughter of all of that stuff. Did we lie about the body that we planted on Omaha Beach (search), trying to convince the Germans that we were going to land somewhere else? We have no right to attack that country. Troop B, 2nd squadron, 17th Cavalry, RVN, 1969-70 Denying a final victory over a dedicated and skilled marxist enemy was a recipe for the murder of our men. The POWs are beaten. Joe? The reality of it is an apology is saying, "I am sorry, I really do apologize for what I did over there, and I'm asking for your forgiveness." This weekend's special I mean, this is very moving. She has to be a murderess too. Free shipping for many products! NORTH: Well, all I did was present the facts. Due to actions and images some people consider unpatriotic or treasonous, she earned All rights reserved. His alliance with the Reds made sense, since both upheld elite control of the world. Hundreds of Americans had gone to North Vietnam, journalists diplomats, our Secretary of State Ramsey Clark, Vietnam veterans, but I said but a movie star hasnt gone and maybe if I go it will draw more attention, and thats what it did. The Nixon Justice Department poured over the transcripts of my broadcasts trying to find a way to put me on trial for treason but they could find none. Andrea Tantaros, former co-host of "The Five," filed a lawsuit saying that Fox News operated like a "sex-fueled, Playboy-Mansion-like cult.". This "police action" quickly developed into a full-blown but undeclared war. She was young and famous at the time, maybe the Iraqi insurgents could get some of the present crop of empty headed celebrities, Britney Spears perhaps, to pose next to those Muslim mopes in robes and head towels while they aim their weapons. ( New York: G.P. wars the intention of which is not to win but to bleed) is quite plausible. The story surfaced on the Internet in 1999, and my guess is that it will live there a long time. Watch above via HBO Max and CNNs Whos Talking to Chris Wallace. quote: It has simply been repeated over and over again, without proof, and duplicated on a number of websites. SEAN HANNITY, CO-HOST: Jane Fonda says she is sorry for some of her actions during the Vietnam War. WebJane Fonda & TheVietnam War. Libertarian commentator Jedediah Bila appeared on Fox's "Outnumbered" and later turned up on ABC's "The View.". You have "War Stories" coming up. Fonda moves down the line, greeting each man with encouragements like Arent you ashamed you killed babies? as she shakes his hand. Chiang refused to be extorted, citing his revulsion of the international banking cartel. However, the fact that she advocated Communism does not give anyone license to make up stories or slander. Copyright 1949-2022 American Heritage Publishing Co. All Rights Reserved. And you were photographed sitting on an anti aircraft gun. She now hosts "New Day" on CNN. North Vietnam, 1972,: Jane Fonda is in the midst of her visit when an N.V.A. The cover called her Ms. Halyburton told him that the POW's had tried to debunk them even though they regarded Fonda as an unsympathetic figure. CHRIS WALLACE: Who the people in the Nixon administration? And I was I was like a limp noodle what I had experienced and what I had seen, I just I wasnt able to resist, they said were gonna take you out here today. If even one of them were true, it would change the entire focus of my article. By July 1972, when Fonda accepted an invitation to visit North Vietnam, America had been at war overseas and with itself for years. They knew we were coming. Many of our veterans still call her Hanoi Jane thanks to her radio broadcasts: True, but she doesnt just have the nickname because of the radio broadcasts. Here's the record, number one: you've got the photo on the anti-aircraft gun that you add on during the transition. Many Americans disapproved of Fondas comments She called our president, according to this report, "a new type of Hitler," pilots "war criminals.". They landed two months later on 7 May with the 2nd Battalion, 4th Marines. Now, I can't judge her heart but it's a different manifestation of Christianity than John Paul II (search). Now, aid and comfort can be measured a lot of ways. The people who are speaking out against the war are the patriots. She said the radio addresses were the only way to get access to American soldiers, because she was barred from meeting them at their bases in South Vietnam. Radio broadcasts, which attempted to shame American troops: Fonda did record messages that the North Vietnamese played for Americans to weaken their resolve. Subsequently communist China was awarded a permanent seat on the U.N. Security Council, its most powerful chair. Again the secret policy of the financiers was: "containment of communism" while disallowing an American victory. Many Americans traveled to Vietnam on peace delegations to end the war, yet it was Jane Fonda who was captured as a timeless image when she was photographed looking through a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun. Whether Fonda wanted to shame troops is subjective. officer gets an idea. This is not a legal transcript for purposes of litigation. Ms. Fonda only met with those POW's who had sold out their fellow POW's, who willingly (without torture) made propaganda statements for their captors, and who enjoyed privileges of medical care, food, and even night-time excursions into Hanoi to watch movies in return. I'm not going to tell you anything of the sort. Ramsey Clark went to Hanoi during the war. It was the last day of my two week time there. Kiran Chetry was a Fox News host from 2001 to 2007. Thousands more were on the way, including Ernie Wallace (ph) and Ed Grummett. The other stories allege a far more direct participation in war crimes on the part of Fonda. During her two-week stay, Fonda concluded that America was unjustly bombing farmland and areas far flung from military targets. Support with a donation>>. FONDA: I'm charging the government with genocide, with genocide. So I ask, should she have been put on trial for treason? target_type: 'mix' Its folklore, but folklore of a curiously evolved sort. "There's no disputing that Jane Fonda toured North Vietnam, propagandized on behalf of the communists, and participated in an orchestrated "press conference" with American POWs in 1972. He was denied his request to gather intelligence by aerial reconnaissance over China. Just another old women of no consequence, don't give her any credit for ending the war, people like John Kerry and Max Cleland don't even think it's over yet. . MacArthur asked Truman to permit Chiang Kai-Shek's troops to fight with Americans against the Red Chinese. In another she was looking into the I mean, he realized that. And, as she does, each POW palms her a scrap of paper with his Social Security number written on it. Once U.S. forces were committed in large numbers the U.S. federal government, as in Korea, prohibited them from attacking specified enemy sanctuaries (staging areas) into which the communists retreated, regrouped, re-armed and launched renewed attacks. Even so, I'm going to keep an eye open to purchase one of the urinal mats with her photograph depicted upon it. Fifty years later, he bears witness again. Thus, the U.S.A. deliberately betrayed its former ally Chiang Kai-Shek and gave mainland China to communism. However, it was a bit too long, and Dr. Shenkman needed it shortened in the interest of time. "Flashpoint Vietnam," the real story about the road to the war. Watch "Hannity & Colmes" weeknights at 9 p.m. Fonda moves down the line, greeting each man with encouragements like Arent you ashamed you killed babies? as she shakes his hand. If I was used, I allowed it to happen. Urban Legends story then identifies the POW and gives some quotes about his treatment by the NVA. But when you know why you did something, and youre willing to admit the mistakes that you made, but stand up for the things that you did that that mattered? WebFind many great new & used options and get the best deals for Jane Fonda: Prime Time - Walk Out (DVD, 2010) at the best online prices at eBay! Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. She continued openly to question the accounts of the U.S. government and American POWs, who told devastating stories of the torture they endured at the hands of the North Vietnamese. And you know, maybe I was set up but I was an adult, its Im gonna take responsibility for it. Her rebellion against the foreign policies of the United States suggested to many outraged Americans that treason might have an All-American face, a familiar accent, and be closer to home than the Other that had previously been assumed to embody the enemy. Her suit was later settled for a reported $20 million. Almost all the messages said we had no business writing about Fonda because she was a traitor. We once published an admiring profile of Benedict Arnoldwhose actions did the nation real damage in a way Fondas fulminations never couldand nobody made a peep. As Jane Fonda promotes her new film, "Monster-in-Law", its up to all of us to let our children know about the specific activities she undertook during the Vietnam War. I'm sorry I hurt you, Alan, and I hope you can forgive me." You're a great American. She still does not know what she did wrong. Someone (I dont remember who) leads me toward the gun, and I sit down, still laughing, still applauding. Kelly responded with a cannon by bringing up the time Fonda posed on a North Vietnamese anti-aircraft gun. They realized that the war was wrong, that we werent wanted there. Id been getting pretty sour about the incensed patriots who would curse me and my family and confidently speak on behalf of all veterans living and dead, and the Great Jehovah and the Continental Congress, to declare I was a disgrace to America for running that storythen conclude by smugly assuring me they would never read it. Hanoi Jane told 60 Minutes that photos snapped while she sat on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal and the largest lapse of judgment I can imagine. Though she did say, meeting the locals, other artists, and intellectuals were well worth it. A young photographer took this harrowing image of the Vietnam War. Mao Tse-Tung, of "Little Red Book" fame, and darling of the New York-Hollywood "elite", then proceeded to murder 65 million of his countrymen in what David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski call "a glorious revolution." At that time, over 60,000 American soldiers had lost their lives, and almost one million Vietnamese. . container: 'taboola-right-rail-thumbnails', Jane didnt make her infamous and idiotic trip to Hanoi until 1972. And the more they tried, the more. She sided with the Viet Cong as revolutionary liberators. And she travelled to Hanoi at a time when North Vietnamese soldiers were killing Americans. These horrendous claims went around the nation on the Internet, resulting in a great deal of anger and consternation among veterans.